8 Responses to “Why pre-employment drug tests may not be enough”

1. Becky Says:
   June 3rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm

   I guess I didn’t realize this was “new” news.
   We know that people are able to “study” for their pre-employment test, that is the very reason we implemented a random quarterly test as well.

2. William King Says:
   June 8th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

   I agree with Becky, this isn’t anything “new”, all prospective employees have to realize that there WILL BE a drug test for pre-employment, so if they have half a brain, they’d clean up before going to apply somewhere. And as Becky states above, this is the reason for random testing isn’t it?

3. sean Says:
   June 9th, 2009 at 10:01 am

   I don’t believe the point of this is new news but a selling point for the benefits and necessity of “Safe production methods” over production at all costs. This is especially important to those of us new to safety with new safety programs(2 years). Upper management may be on board but getting middle management to buy in can be difficult. Especially if they don’t add the hidden costs. Use these numbers with your companies own and you just might win one more heart and soul and not have to fill out one work comp form. If your looking for earth shattering in safety your not going to find it. Take what you can get and use what you have and you can benefit your employees your employer and hopefully sleep at night.

4. Samantha Says:
   September 4th, 2009 at 11:57 am

   I think when companies use a Professional Employer Organization to administer tests it gives a safer route to go to avoid any lawsuits, etc. For drug testing, I think there should always be a pre-employment drug test so that applicants know that the company is a drug-free environment, and following up with a random drug test while employed by the company. At the company I work for, we have a random computer selected drug test. The only way you know if you are selected is when you clock in. It keeps all the employees on their toes because they never know when or if they will be selected, so it keeps them drug-free if they had any drug habits in the past.

5. Scotty Johnson Says:
   April 30th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

   Quest, eh? I think a thorough investigation of these corporate communists is in order. Drug testing is a racket, it solves nothing, it merely provides the illusion of “safety.” People have been drinking, sniffing, and snorting since the beginning of time, there is nothing new under the sun. There is no such thing as a risk-free world, it is a utopian fantasy. It works like this; a few years back, the corporate communists came up with another snake-oil sales scheme. They decided that they would create an imaginary boogieman out of thin air (drug abuse) and create a phony solution to it. (drug testing) They have been deceiving the dumbed down sheeple for years on this. Think about it; these corporate fascists line their pockets by violating the Fourth Amendment rights of their fellow citizens. Drug testing is a big lie. This country went over 200 years without this piss test crap and it did just fine. Drug testing serves only to line the pockets of a few selfish dirtbags at the expense of others.

6. Steven Says:
   June 24th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

   Well I had a guy show up on a project at 7:00 am the other day smelling like a brewery. He had driven about 90 miles to get to the job and when he went to sign in for orientation his breath almost knocked my trainer over. She immediately told me about this and we “re-arranged” the order of the day and did the drug/alcohol testing before the orientation. This guy blew a .14 on the breath test. Needless to say he was not allowed to sit in orientation and got real mad about it. His direct quote to me was “I knew you did drug screening but I had no idea you would do an alcohol test”. Then he got nasty when we did not want him to drive home. We offered to get him a ride and drive his truck home for him, but he mouthed off and stormed out of the trailer. I know for a fact the state police got him before he was three miles from the job site(and before he had a chance to hit someone)

   Some people you just don’t want on the job

7. Scotty Johnson Says:
   July 19th, 2010 at 12:56 am

   Steven, I know what you are saying, I’ve seen this many times myself. I personally have seen and known countless people who have been fired because of drinking, but I’ve never seen anyone lose a job because of smoking weed on their own time. Pot smokers are not the problem, it’s people who go out and get drunk every night and don’t show up to work who are the problem. Many people who I’ve worked with who smoke weed are some of the best workers I’ve ever seen. If I owned a company I would hire them in a heartbeat, I don’t really care what they do on their own personal time. These communist companies out there are way out of line, they need to keep their nose out of people’s personal business. A more common sense policy would be something like; “Look, we don’t care what you do on your own time, we only care about what you do HERE on the job. If you smoke weed, do it on your own time. If you are caught doing it on the job, yoiu’re fired! That’s all you need to do, it’sjust common sense! We live in an increasingly oppressive society, a culture of snitches and snoops. A warning to snoops and snitches; if you stick your nose in my business, don’t be suprised if I break it with my fist! My urine is not for sale, I would never stoop to pissing in a jar just so some deviant parasite like the assholes who own Quest can line their pockets. In fact, anyone who advocates piss tests is a traitor and a coward who ought to get the death penalty for treason!!!!

8. Steven Smith Says:
   August 18th, 2010 at 11:53 am

   Scotty Johnson is RIGHT! Research shows that employment accident/injury rates are not affected by pre-employment OR random drug tests. So, why test?? If they tested for the actual presence of drugs, it might be different; as it is, they test for drug *metabolytes*, not at all the same. For one thing, despite what the drug warriors say, there are non-drug substances that will cause one to test positive for drugs.
   For another, drug metabolytes can stay in the system long after the affects of the drug has worn off. Either situation should negate the usefulness of the present drug test.

   The issue here shouldn’t be whether they require MORE drug testing; the issue should be the waste of time and money on drug tests.

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