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Was meeting at restaurant a working lunch? Workers’ comp depends on it

October 29, 2012 by Fred Hosier
Posted in: Bizarre Accident of the Week, Fatality, In this week's e-newsletter, Injuries, Special Report, Workers' comp


An employee met a colleague at a restaurant to discuss work. While getting food from the salad bar, the employee tripped and fell. A doctor said the injuries he suffered from the fall caused his death a month later. Can his widow get workers’ comp death benefits?

Jack Rabin was a professor at Penn State. He had been working closely with a doctoral student who was preparing his dissertation. The two would meet regularly at a restaurant to discuss the doctoral dissertation because they were on campus at different times: One taught during the day and the other taught at night.

During one restaurant meeting, the two men went to the salad bar. The doctoral student heard a loud crash and found Rabin lying on the floor, groaning. Rabin said he had caught his foot on something and fell. He felt pain in his upper left chest, shoulder and arm.

Rabin suffered a shoulder fracture and dislocation. A doctor performed a “shoulder closed relocation.” Rabin was discharged from the hospital the next day.

Three days later, he was back at another hospital, suffering from shoulder pain and difficulty walking. Rabin’s doctor said the patient was in cardiac and respiratory distress.

The next month, while still hospitalized, Rabin died. His doctor wrote in his hospital summary, “The patient expired from multiple medical problems stemming from his unfortunate left upper extremity fracture.”

Rabin’s widow applied for workers’ comp death benefits. A workers’ comp judge awarded the benefits, but Penn State appealed. The workers’ comp board affirmed the judge’s opinion, and the university took its case to a state court.

Was he ‘engaged in business?’

In its appeal, Penn State argued Rabin’s widow failed to prove her husband sustained his injuries while in the course of his employment. The university argued Rabin was on a lunch break when he fell and that he wasn’t “engaged in the furtherance of his employer’s business” at the time.

The state court credited testimony from the doctoral student who said he and Rabin had met several times over a meal to discuss his dissertation. The student said that, had it not been for Rabin’s fall, the two of them would have continued their discussion after they got their food on the day of Rabin’s injury.

The state court noted that previous case law established that “where the injury occurred during an inconsequential or innocent departure from work within the regular working hours,” the employee was engaged in business.

Rabin’s “trip to the salad bar cannot logically be construed as anything more than an inconsequential departure from his work as a professor, in which he was engaged at the time,” the court wrote.

Penn State also argued Rabin’s widow failed to prove his fall at the salad bar substantially contributed to his death. The professor had several preexisting conditions which were triggered by the fall.

But the court credited testimony by Rabin’s doctor who stated his multiple medical problems were exacerbated by his fracture and that caused him to “go into complete body system failure.”

The court also rejected this line of argument.

For those reasons, the court rejected Penn State’s argument that Rabin wasn’t engaged in business when he was injured. The court affirmed the workers’ comp board decision to give his widow workers’ comp death benefits.

What do you think about this decision? Let us know in the comments below.

(Penn State v. Workers’ Compensation Appeal Board, Commonwealth court of PA, No. 2224 C.D. 2011, 8/15/12)

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  • John B

    Looks like Penn State should look into subrogation… Hopefully they can figure that out.

  • Wiley1

    Joe, you hit the nail on the head regarding the control of the environment. Personal Responsibility has left the building and not returning anytime soon.

  • DMac

    I call it the “Six Degrees of Seperation” for Workers Comp. If you can conceivably connect an injury event to work, whether you are actually doing work, talking or thinking about work, or simply are an employee, no matter how far removed from a work situation – YOU OR YOUR LOVED ONES GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT YOUR CASE AND HOPE THAT THE WC BOARD APPROVES YOUR CASE. It does not matter how well managed your employer’s safety program is, how much effort is places….or whether it could concievably be controlled by the employer….That is our money for nothing world.

  • Joe

    This is a very unforunate event and I feel for the widow and any family members he may have left behind. But as a few have stated before me, this should not be considered a workmans comp claim. Just because you are talking or discussing work issues away from your “job” doesn’t put you on the clock. How many work deals get discussed out on the golf course or even over a drink at the local watering hole? Even if his employer had set up this meeting and was paying for dinner I don’t see how it can fall back on them as they had no controll over that environment. Too many times we are seeing workmans comp benefits being paid for accidents that I feel should be considered personal injuries; the lady injured in her motel room while entertaing a guest at night is a pretty good example. Personal responsibility time people!

  • DMac

    According to the Boards decision, the law sees this as a workers comp case, so it is a workers comp case. However, my thoughts are that it should not be, regardless if it was a work meeting, during working hours, or the boss ordered the employee to meet a client for lunch. My reasoning; The employer has zero control over the conditions of the cafeteria, meaning his fall resulted from something which the employer could not reasonably manage. In my opinion, the correct thing to do is for the widow to civilly sue the university/cafeteria for the cause of the fall. In my opinion, the link to Workers Compensation claims of this nature must be answered based on the employers ability to mitigate and manage hazards. In this case, there is no reasonable way for that to occur.

  • Jim Wagner

    I would disagree that this should be considered a workplace incident unless a superior directed Rabin to meet at a restaurant. The meetings could have been on campus. The courts line of thinking in this case leads to more question. If I am on a conference call in my home by my own choice when I could (or should) be in my office and I fall, is that then comp and therefore the company’s responsibility as well? If the employer doesn’t direct the employee and the job description doesn’t direct the employee to be working at a location beyond the employer’s normal workplace, I don’t think we should be placing liability on the employer. It is sad that this happened and that the widow suffers, but there has to be limitations to these points. Employers are being unreasonably penalized for unfortunate life events for which they have no control or influence.

  • Ronnie

    The article leaves some unanswered questions to be able to give a precise answer. Was this something Penn State required Rabin to perform or was this something that he was doing on his own time. Even if they may have met on Penn State property, which it doesn’t say, if this was something he was doing on his own for a friend or student then this was not work related.

    If Penn State required this type of interaction then I would agree with the courts. If Penn State did not require this as part of his employment, then I would have to disagree with the courts.

    Either way, in this case it is unfortunate for both parties involved and really nobody wins.

  • Captain Safety

    Not a good year for Penn State. Seems pretty cut & dry to me. The professor was definitely engaged in work activities. It never ceases to amaze me the things that cause serious injuries and deaths in the workplace. Our company engages in work activities far more hazardous than most of the things I see on a daily basis and have yet (knock on wood) to have a fatality as long as I have been here. How the heck to you fall & die at a salad bar???

  • DMac

    Another one of those cases where the court rules for the employee in regard to an everyday type of incident. Rediculous. Tripped at the salad bar, regardles of being on the clock or off the clock, in my mind is not work related, regardless of what was being discussed. Same as the guy who dove into the pool, same as the policewoman going to get a donut.

  • John

    Good call by the board and the court. In Today’s world it is not uncommon to have to combine work with eating to discuss current projects and to meet deadlines.

  • Wiley1

    Willy – The student prefaced his thought with ” Had it not been for Rabin’s fall”. The student appears to be the individual writing his disertation with Rabin assisting. Under that assumption, I would think that Mr. Rabin’s efforts were based more on mentoring and not a stated job description. Willy, I agree with you that there is a lack of information.

  • http://www.safetynewsalert.com Fred Hosier

    Story clarified with a couple of sentences rewritten.

    - editor

  • Willy

    I am confused. The article states” while still hospitalized Rabin died”. Then the article states ” The student also said that after they got their food on the day Rabin died, he expected their work discussion would continue.”
    Is the student talking about them two getting food at the hospital seeing Rabin was hospitalized when he died? If so how could Rabin be that well to get his food if he was hospitalized with difficulty in walking and cardiac/resporatory distress?
    The article isn’t clear enough to answer the question.


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